Many parents can't help but try to shape their children's taste in music. But is it an effort doomed to failure, or worse, will it make children hate the music their parents love, and love the music their parents hate?
It might be something like this. Great-grandparents like classical (Mahler), grandparents like jazz (Ellington), parents like rock (Queen), children may be ready to graduate from In the Night Garden to Gangnam Style.
Parents have an interest in finding some musical common ground with their children, if only for five-hour car journeys.
"Every father wants his son to follow his own football team," says Jeremy Summerly, a British conductor and lecturer at the Royal Academy of Music.
"And I imagine that every parent has some kind of innate desire to want their child to enjoy the same kind of music that they did."
But times change.
"The sort of music that was fashionable to the parent may have become distinctly unfashionable by the time the child is of the same age," says Summerly.
One parent who is navigating these reefs at the moment is Tom Hodgkinson, satirist and author of The Idle Parent. Hodgkinson is well aware of the risks in trying to shape a child's taste.
"There's an episode of The Simpsons in which Homer's in the car playing his 70s rock to the kids, and they just groan," says Hodgkinson.
But nonetheless he has tried, gently, to shape his children's' taste.
"For a while the four of us, my wife and I and the children, had piano lessons together. At the moment my son has got into the ukulele and he wanders around the house playing it. He's also in a band called Purple Inferno.
"Sometimes I'll be driving and I'll ask Arthur, my 12-year-old, if he knows the first two albums of The Red Hot Chili Peppers, and he'll download them and play them in the car," says Hodgkinson.
"The other day I heard him playing along to the bass line of God Save the Queen - the Sex Pistols version, not the national anthem - and I felt pleased. I thought, 'That's my boy,'" says Hodgkinson who played in a punk band at university.
The cellist Julian Lloyd Webber thinks that you can't impose your taste on your children but you can guide them, as he did with his own son David.
"You want to introduce your child to the things you believe are the best. When my son was eight years old I took him to see [the Russian cellist Mstislav] Rostropovich. That's a special thing to have seen and it will stay with David all his life," says Lloyd Webber.
In other homes, the musical influences are passed on less deliberately.
"I can't say that I ever tried to shape my children's taste in music or thought about doing so," says Jem Finer, artist and founder member of The Pogues.
He says his daughters, Ella and Kitty, had to live with whatever was being played in the house and deal with whatever musical instruments were lying around.
While Finer was playing Captain Beefheart, the blues, Greek, Irish, Spanish and Turkish music, Finer's wife, the artist Marcia Farquhar, was playing the girls Bernard Bresslaw's comic songs, Beethoven and - when their father wasn't around - the Pogues.
Clearly something rubbed off. Ella, 29, has just completed a doctorate in the voice in theatre and Kitty, 27, is an artist and songwriter.
But sometimes despite all the efforts of the parents there isn't much effect.
"Some children follow what their parents say and what their parents like. They enjoy living in the image of their parents, and other children do precisely the opposite," says Summerly.
"If the parent goes Mahler, the child will go Lady Gaga."
Employing a bit of "child psychology" might be an idea. Knowing the tendency of children to rebel, if you want them to like your music, perhaps you might consider banning it in the home, says Summerly.
"You might find that all of a sudden the child thirsts for the string quartets of Haydn and takes to listening to them in private."
It seems that the musical environment at home does not necessarily influence what a child grows up to enjoy.
"I grew up in a house where, predominantly, classical music was played. And I couldn't stand classical music," says Finer.
"I remember [Sergei Prokofiev's] Peter and the Wolf being bought for me as a child and having no interest in it whatsoever," says Finer.
"I could only respond to much more basic, primal music, like rock'n'roll, until my mind developed," says Finer.
But what happens when the effort to shape the child's taste actually works too well?
For those parents tempted to wean their children off the current playground hit in favour of late classical and early romantic music - Haydn, Mozart, Beethoven, Schubert, say - Summerly has a warning for you.
"You have to be very careful that if you introduce your child to that and they do follow you, they might alienate themselves from their friends at school.
"You could be stopping your children from growing up in a normal way with other children whose musical diet will be that of CBeebies," says Summerly.
Hodgkinson is well aware of the other problem that parents can find themselves in.
"I would kind of like to go see Metallica with my son but there's something terrible about dad and son being into the same band. It is my responsibility to hate it," says Hodgkinson.
Perhaps what Hodgkinson wants to guard against is a kind of arrested development.
"At the moment I am getting into medieval and baroque music. When I play it in the car my son just groans. Part of me feels that children ought to like different music from their parents," says Hodgkinson.
For most parents the desire to shape a child's taste is positive - emerging from the wish to share what they love.
Summerly believes that music can profoundly educate and guide our feelings.
"If a parent believes that music is first a mirror of the soul or secondly that it can actually encourage good behaviour or that it is a major part of educational development, then it stands to reason that the parent will try to foster the child's engagement with a particular kind of music," says Summerly.
Playing even the simplest musical instrument and playing together with other people is something that should be open to all.
"When I grew up... I was told I was tone deaf," says Finer, "so I wasn't even worth considering for any kind of music lessons."
Finer now plays the banjo, guitar, hurdy-gurdy, mandola, and saxophone.
Whatever parents do or don't do to shape their children's taste, they seem to find what they like. Perhaps all that parents need to do is to open the doors for children, introduce them, in Lloyd Webber's phrase, "to some of the greatest achievements of mankind" and let them explore at them their leisure.
"There are no mistakes, they will find their own taste anyway," says Lloyd Webber.
By Robin Banerji - BBC World Service 19 November 2012. Taken from HERE.
Parents would want us to understand and love to the music that they listen to. And In my opinion, a child’s taste of music depends on their environment. My parents absolutely love jazz, and when I was nine, my parents took me to Java Jazz. It’s an annual jazz festival in Jakarta, where international and Indonesian artist play in the same venue for three days. To be honest, I would say I like listening to Jazz, I think it’s soothing, but I don’t necessarily love it.
ReplyDeleteOnce I asked a friend about his craziness toward classical music. He emailed me about his beautiful written essay on Haydn, Beethoven, and Mozart. He analyzed the symphony and made a distinct connection to life itself. He once told me that his dad would play classical music even before he was borned, and in some way it took part of his love for Joseph Haydn.
I think the whole idea of compelling certain music to their children is not wrong at all. But the outcome depends on their child; you can’t disown them for loving a different type of music. We should not only love our favorite artist for its endearingly beautiful music, but also for the extremely valuable message the work tries to communicate. The problem with songs nowadays, is that most of them is meaningless. The same lyrics are repeated, but it would be a hit song rather than accousting love song with meaningful lyrics.
"I think the whole idea of compelling certain music to their children is not wrong at all."
DeleteWe cannot COMPEL something TO someone.
We COMPEL someone TO DO something.
Examples:
"I was compelled to hand over my house keys to the landlord."
"The weather conditions compelled the dance troupe to cancel their performance."
Now, as for what you meant, I agree with you if you were suggesting that children should be raised to know about music in the same way as they get educated about other aspects of culture. However, I don't think you can compel children to consume certain types of music beyond exposing them to it or educating them. You cannot force people to love things.
i'm replying to all of your comments just now because i don't go back to the posts after i commented. I guess i'll check every now and then and anticipate for your correction. But it does helps, i'm gathering all your comments into one file so i won't make the same mistakes after. And yes, probably you can't force people to love the same music. It just wouldn't work, would it?
DeleteMy father was a forever Metallica’s fan, but he admitted that pushing me to like Metallica’s song is not right. He said that he must let me be free to choose what I like to hear or not, as long as it is educating, good, and not rude. When I go out with him, I usually hear music through my iPod and he plays the song from his CDs. He usually won’t talk about anything, but suddenly I feel like his songs are good. And when we try to sing it together, I feel like closer to him.
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion, most of parents want to have stronger bonds with their children in informal ways such as music, sports, etc. But sometimes, they bug their children to hear or to like what isn’t their passion. Most of us have different “fondness” of music with our parents, but some of us have it, although it’s very rare. People said that the fruit will never fall too far from its tree, but the wind can also be a serious matter too. If parents force their children too hard, it will only let the wind blows their children further.
It’s always depends on point of views. When your parents listen to classic songs, you will assume that it’s boring and groans. But when they hear pop songs, they will also think that’s too childish. Nothing’s wrong with trying to have similar “fondness” of music, but parents or children just have to walk on their own way and someday, hopefully, will end on the same road.
"In my opinion, most of parents want to have stronger bonds with their children in informal ways such as music, sports, etc."
DeleteAs long as parents remember the old saying, "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink", then I think attempts to bond by sharing their interests and passions regarding music are a positive thing.
Yes and I'm pretty close to my father more than ever now because we share similar music taste. I hope we (my father and I) can find some other similar interests!
DeleteIt is mentioned that a child's taste of music depends on their environment, and I have to say that I agree with that statement. Both of my parents sure have a different taste of music and of course it's different with mine too. Since my father is a Korean he really like to listen some of his favorite Korean song. Then he pushed me to listen to his music, well at first I didn’t want it because I don’t understand the language but later on i’d get used to it and started to like it. I have to admit, music is a universal language for every people to communicates. We don’t have to understand the lyrics as long as we enjoy the music. Different with my dad, my mother really love jazz and slow music. Because of my mother likes to play some jazz music in the morning, then I started to listen jazz music too. So both of my parents does influenced me, but still my music interest is keep on changing as the time goes by. So, basically I can listen to almost every genre and i have no problem with listening to what my father's or my mother's music.
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion, the idea of suggesting or trying to make the children to listen their parents music taste is a good thing. There's nothing wrong with that, so maybe their parents want their children to have the same music taste with them. But the result it depends on the child, whether they'll listen to it or not. Because the parents can't force their child to love or to like the same music taste like their parents.
"Different with my dad, my mother really love jazz and slow music."
DeleteA better expression for you to use in situations like this is, "Unlike my dad..."
Examples:
"Unlike the UGM graduates of the 1950s and 1960s, today's students will find it more challenging to end up with top jobs in government or the corporate world."
"Unlike his sister, Rugimin had no musical talent whatsoever."
Hello, my name is Heza Ramanda, and I want to place a comment on on this post, which I found intrigued me.
ReplyDeleteThe reason why it intrigued me, is because of the topic, music. I love music. But my parents and my sister, we all love a different genre of music. But none of us consider it as a problem. Well, until finally all of us were together in a same car, which only has 1 radio. Whenever we plugged the aux cable into our phone, each one of us played a different kind of music. And I think that I love the idea of making your child to love the same music genre as you do, because it is convenient. But still, you cant force someone to love something that they do not like. And I agree with Julian Lloyd Webber that you cant impose your tasete of music to your children, but you can guide them instead.
And I guess that is all.
"[You] cant force someone to love something that they do not like. And I agree with Julian Lloyd Webber that you cant impose your taste of music to your children, but you can guide them instead."
DeleteI think the precise meanings of the following words are important in this discussion:
"shape", "impose", "guide", "make", "share", "push", "influence", "suggest", "force", "compel".
My family is not a fond of music. In my family, I am the only one who can play instrument. I play the piano since I was in elementary, but I stopped several times and moved from one academy to another. And when I was thirteen years old, I started learn classic from zero because I did not have any technique since I learned only pop music before. Actually, my mom insisted me to play piano because my dad really wants his daughter to play for him. But in real life, I rarely practice my piano for him. That's pretty bad, I think. My father likes old songs especially mandarin song. Very different with me, I'm not a fan of mandarin song but k-pop. At first, my dad didn't like it when I play song that I like at home. But now, my dad keep some theme songs from Korean Drama. And I agree that parents can't force their children to like the same song genre or the same singer. In my opinion, it's better for the children to discover and experience more genre of music. So, the children will find the one that they like the most.
ReplyDelete"Actually, my mom insisted me to play piano because my dad really wants his daughter to play for him. But in real life, I rarely practice my piano for him. That's pretty bad, I think."
DeleteDo you regret not practising more seriously?
Nee Norr Nee Norr [sound of the Grammar Police arriving]
"my mom insisted me to play piano"
The sentence pattern you are looking for here is as follows:
"My mom insisted that I play piano."
Take a look at my reply to Tsamara's comment on the thread about the three women who won Nobel Prizes.
Here: http://ewsiup2013.blogspot.com/2013/09/three-women-receive-nobel-peace-prize.html?showComment=1380306949846#c5616155955272963422
I actually regret it, a little bit. Moreover, my dad just bought me a piano last year, but not the acoustic one. Before I had my piano, I usually practiced with my old keyboard, but I wasn’t too satisfied. I had hard time because playing on keyboard made me a little bit blunt with the dynamics. So, at that time I couldn’t really practice well. Even when I practiced in front of my teacher I press the piano too hard and the sound became very loud. Because I started playing piano too late and not taking the basics first, so my posture and my "fingering" are not that good. I wish I could manage my time better. Even though it’s late, I’ll try my best and catch up my piano lesson.
DeleteWhoops! Thanks for your correction, Adrian! I will remember that grammar pattern and use it well.
Okay, I will check that.
I also play the piano, but not classical music as I taught myself and really just try to learn whatever songs I like or what I compose myself. I am quite the opposite of you, as I can't play on a keyboard. But my problem with the keyboard really is the lack of weighted keys. The keys give you no resistance for your fingers in my experience. Almost every day I used to play on my parents' acoustic piano in the living room after I came home from school.
DeleteAbout a year ago I bought a stage piano (electrical piano) which I've used quite a lot. It is very easy to hook up to an audio interface so that you can record your playing, and you can also adjust the volume so that you don't disturb the rest of your family or your roommates. On top of that it has weighted keys and dynamic sound, so it really sounds and feels like a real piano. I really like it.
Wow, I envy you, Erik. I mean it’s because you can learn songs you like and even compose by yourself. For me, I have to learn about two or three months until I can play and memorize all the notes. Well, actually your problem about the keyboard, I also experienced the same. My piano is the same as yours. I love my clavinova so much. Acoustic piano has classic feel and also the sound is clear. But what I don’t like from the acoustic piano is the tone need to be checked regularly or the tone will go wrong. The recording feature in the piano really helps me to evaluate my performance. I usually record the song I play when I’m in the mood, but it really need a lot of time for me. I get nervous whenever I record the song on piano. I made a lot of mistakes and sometimes I have to try record just one song for a week.
DeleteAfter read this article, I disagree with parents who try to shape their children’s taste of music. I understand that parents just want their children and them have same thing to love and share. But, shaping children’s taste of music is not really good, because it can be like forcing them to love thing that maybe they don’t like. I come from family who love different kind of music. But, we still can understand each other. We often listen to same music together when we are in road or long trip. Fortunately, my parents are not trying to make their children love same kind of music with them. They just introduce their music to us, make us listen to their music but, they don’t expect us to love it. And I think parents do not need to make their children love the same genre of music but just understand each other. Even though parents still trying to shape their children’s taste of music, I think children will find their own anyway. Just like Lloyd Webber says in the last sentence, "There are no mistakes, they will find their own taste anyway,".
ReplyDelete"But, shaping children’s taste of music is not really good, because it can be like forcing them to love thing that maybe they don’t like."
DeleteWhat about paying for music classes, making sure children are taught to read music, and enabling them to understand and appreciate classical music [for example]? Isn't that just a form of education and training, and therefore a part of a normal upbringing? Would you describe that as "[shaping] their children’s taste of music"?
Well, I think in case like that, parents just want their children having knowledge and skill in that genre of music. But, in my opinion, that still consider as “shaping children’s taste of music”. I say that because parents introduce the music to their children that didn’t know before and make them learn and understand that music without the children chose it. I’m going to tell you about my friend’s life story that is similar with this article. My friend is good in playing drum. Her father is a violinist. My friend told me that at first she was in violin class because of her father asked to. She learned violin before finally fell in love with drum. Then, she stopped playing violin and started playing drum. And now she is a drummer. Her name is Riszy Biola. Biola means violin. I can see what her father wants her to be.
DeleteSo, paying for music classes is not a wrong thing to do. But, even though that just for education and training purpose, at last, children will chose what they like and want to.
Sorry Tobi! I accidentally deleted your post. Here it is again...
ReplyDelete"Quite frankly I have to say that I am not at all convinced of this article. Why would you want to try to shape your children’s taste in music? For convenience reasons? Seriously? I believe that a child should be able to freely choose whatever kind of music he or she wants to listen to. Of course, decisions always indicate some degree of influence, but I honestly think that this influence should not necessarily be triggered by a child’s parents. I also agree with the point that there is no way to force taste on to children or people in general. I probably would get a little bit annoyed from time to time if my son or daughter would listen to e.g. loud Heavy Metal music (not my favorite kind of music) all day, but I really think I would not mind it, as long as he or she would not drift into some sort of heavy metal culture, which could have a negative impact on his or her life in general."
Tobi: "Why would you want to try to shape your children’s taste in music? For convenience reasons? Seriously?"
DeleteParents might expose their children to the music they love or used to love in an effort to share the pleasure or inspiration that it gave them. Whether this can be described as attempting to "shape" their children's tastes is debatable.
As parents, I don’t think it’s necessary to force their children to like the same music with them. Just like the article has said, sometimes what our parents love is has been out-of-date, so we can’t understand why they love this music and why we should love this too.
ReplyDeleteI agree with the statement which said that the parents just have to guide the children not to force them. Music is an art, I mean every one can love it, depends on their characteristic. There isn’t any specific rule about how the music should be. The music we choose to sometimes can be a representative of ourselves. So, different people may have different music’s styles with others.
And, there isn’t any bad or good music in this world. Each genre of music is good, it’s just depends on your taste. People should be free to choose whatever they love, because it will be another way to prove their existence in this world. It’s like the declaration of your own color.
I disagree with parents who try to shape their children’s taste of music. Because each person has different taste of music and their parents can’t force their children to like the same genre music as they do. In my house, we have different taste of music and we never consider it as a problem. We appreciate the different taste of music we have. My parents never trying to influence me and my brother and sister to like the music they listen to. I find it unique to have a family that have different taste of music. But honestly, my sister plays main role to my taste of music. Because she is 8 year older than me, when I was a kid she often plays some music that made me like it too. But, she didn’t purposely to influence me but it just happened naturally. As I grow older, I have different taste of music with her and I think it’s an common thing because I know which one of genre that suits me.
ReplyDeleteParents act as role models for their children, especially in the early age of childhood. At that early period, nobody is more important or exerts more influence on children than mum and dad. So it is not surprising that parents also try to influence their children’s taste of music. However I don’t think that this is only motivated by convenience although there are clearly advantages in enjoying the same music during a long car journey. Nevertheless, I think the true motives go deeper. Usually there is a certain lifestyle going along with a certain type of music. This can be expressed by the style of clothing, the language used and the behavior which are used to show the affiliation to a certain group of people that listens to the same music. The difference between punks and hip-hoppers is for example quite obvious.
ReplyDeleteWhen children grow older and start to follow a certain kind of music or a certain singer, this singer often becomes a new role model that might in some cases even replace the parents. If this happens, the singer or the band might have even more influence on the children than the parents. Along with this influence, certain values are shaping the behavior, appearance and lifestyle of children. It is unnecessary to mention that these values often don’t correspond with the parents’ values. An example would be punk music which is usually associated with a provocative appearance and a rebelling attitude. Or pop-singer Britney Spears who is famous for various scandals like “express-wedding”, bald head-shaving and alcohol excesses. This might be a reason why parents try to shape their children’s taste in music, to prevent them from bad influence imposed by scandalous singers.
From this perspective, it is understandable that parents want to shape their children’s taste in music, especially when the children are still young and easy to influence. However I think that everybody should be allowed to choose freely which kind of music he or she wants to listen to. And as in the article already mentioned, a too aggressive approach in imposing the parents’ music on children might have the exact opposite effect. The only thing that parents can and should do is raising their children with the “right” values and educating a strong self-confidence. This would either lead children to independently listen to same or similar music like their parents or listening to different music without adopting the values and lifestyles going along with it.
I agree to statement that say children seem to find what kind of music they like. More over I ever know that baby is the best moment to teach about music. But parent role is just introduce many kind of music to their child. In the beginning child tend to choose the same type of music as his/her parent. Later on they will choose different kind of music because they will know deeper about another music. After that they chose genre that seems appropriate with their soul, they will love it as the best kind of music. For example like me, my parent tend to love genre pop and kind of slow music, while I love kind of fast music such as jazz and R&B. I believe and I know when i was little kid, my parent often give me pop song. But then I find pop is just boring, this music have no interest. I find jazz interesting just when I watch in junior high school, and I found this genre is interesting without my parent intervention. It is just the same when I found R&B music, I know that music without my parent intervention. So now I can say that commonly children and parent have different tendency to enjoy kind of music.
ReplyDeleteReading this article makes it funny how my parents are the ones who follow their kids’ taste in music, instead of us following them. I started to realize this when my little sister bought a music album and playing it; my father and my mother were really enjoying it. My father kept asking when the new album is released. This did not only happen once. I saw a music concert with my father twice and both was my favorite artist not his (But later on, my idol became his favorite artist too).
ReplyDeleteI love the way my parents blend in with their children through music. They never force us to like a certain genre of music. They would be fine with any CDs playing in the car. They taught us to have respects with everyone, no matter what genre of music they like.
Having said that, I totally disagree if a child has to follow his or her parents’ taste in music. Of course, I understand that somehow parents want their children to have the same taste in music, but when it comes to music, you can’t force it.
I can understand that parents want to shape their children’s taste of music. That is because music taste to some extent reflects personality or at least lifestyle and values. My father likes music, he is for example a big Beatles fan. When me and my brother were young he made us listen to his Beatles tapes. Later, I was into the 90s singers and bands, like Britney Spears, No Angels and so on. From my point of view today, this was not really “good” music. My father must have found it horrible that his daughter listens to such music. But, and that was the same with my brother, as a young teenager you want to be different from your parents, you listen to different music, like different football clubs and so on. Furthermore, when you are young and still have to find your own taste and opinion you want to be “cool” so you listen to the music that is currently “in”. When you get older, you realize that some of the things your parents like are not that bad. Today I also like to listen to bands my father likes. But my father has a good taste in music, he is very up to date and listens to some of the bands I like, too. Sometimes we go to concerts together. So I definitely think that parents should let their children listen to the kind of music they like, but there is nothing wrong in trying to shape their taste a little.
ReplyDeleteI agree with the article that parents can’t force their children to love their parents music because I believe that every person have their own interest of music. And I think that this case isn’t only used in the world of music but also should be implemented in many other aspect of life. Right now, there are a lot of parents who force their children to follow their parents order. For example in education they should took a major that chosen by their parents. It isn’t good because if parents force their children to love what their parents loved, the children will fell depressed because they can’t enjoy what they done. This thing is also relevant in the world of music. When parents forced their children to love a music which their parents loved, I’m afraid that they will fell inconvenient with that and they can’t grow up normally because they can’t follow the trend about what kind of music that their friends liked right now. The only thing that parent can do is to try to introduce their children about many different kind of music so in the future they can choose which one is the best for them or maybe they decided not to like music
ReplyDeleteMy parents forced me to listen to classical songs, which i don't really dig in to. I only like pop, rock, alternative,indie,electronic,and acoustic stuff. They forbid me to listen to electronic dance music things which I love to listen and create. Everytimes I crank them up on my speakers, my parents always tell me to shut it down. So that is why I bought a pair of headphones which I use to listen and create electronic music, so I don't bother them with it. I agree with the statement that tells about parents can not force their children to listen to the music they like. Every person in this world has their own unique taste of music and we have to appreciate each of them. For example I like to listen to electronic musics, but some of my friends don’t like to. They would rather listen to some easy listening musics than electronic ones and I appreciate it.
ReplyDeleteI am quite certain that it is possible for parents to shape their children's taste in music, though it is unlikely to always succeed. When I was 4, my father used to play me songs from bands such as Scorpion, Kiss, the Corrs, and a compilation of black jazz music, which, in my opinion, shaped me into liking rock and blues/jazz music. At times, he also played Eurotrance songs and cassettes filled with techno mixtapes (back then he referred to it as 'musik disko') which made me really love listening to electronic dance music as well as creating it.
ReplyDeleteHowever, we do not always have the same taste in music. My dad sometimes get fed up when I listen to hardcore punk or grindcore music like Napalm Death, or dubstep music like Skrillex/Tek-One, saying that it's just filled with a bunch of random speaker-busting noises. He doesn't really understand indie or psychedelic pop music such as Passion Pit/Foster the People. I also don't really like it when he's listening to rap music, or melayu music such as Wali, D'masiv, etc.
All in all, my opinion is that, while the parents can be a 'role-model' or a 'point of measurement' for their children's taste in music, I don't think that parents really could, or should, shape their taste in it
I agree with the statement by Jeremy Summerly: "Every father wants his son to follow his own football team", because I see it by myself. My father wants my younger brother to support Manchester United, he even bought Manchester United's jersey for him, but my brother prefer to support Chelsea, and my father doesn't force him to like MU.
ReplyDeleteI think parents shouldn't force their kids to do something. The parents only give direction to their kids, tell them what is wrong and what is right, and correct them whenever they do wrong.
My parents never shape me to like their favorite music. My parents like old Indonesian songs like Dewi Yul's songs or Iwan Fals', while my younger sister and I like Kpop. They don't forbid us for liking Kpop but they always tell us to not being too fanatic to them. Thankfully, they don't force us to like Indonesian songs.
When one talks about parents who try to shape their children's taste in music, it's kind of hard not to talk about Haim. For those who don't know about Haim, they're a 3-piece American rock band hailing from Los Angeles, which consist of sisters Este, Danielle, and Alana Haim. As a newcomer band, the amount of buzz they generated this year is mind-boggling, so much that they played in Glastonbury Festival in July, perhaps today's equivalence of the Woodstock Festival. Their meteoric rise to fame is inevitably attributed (by the sisters themselves) to the musical environment their music-loving parents set up at home. Their parents curtailed their TV watching so they had time to draw on a plethora of musical influences from TLC to Spice Girls, Mozart to Limp Bizkit, and Fleetwood Mac to Ravel. Their father also set up a small home studio where the four of them could play as a band (how cute is that? A dad-daughters band!). The result? A critically acclaimed debut album (Days Are Gone) and fans ranging from David Cameron to the Arctic Monkeys.
ReplyDeleteHowever, as a child I did not have such privilege to start my own band with my siblings because my parents never really introduced us to any kind of music (although to be fair, we also do not have any extraordinary musical skill). Perhaps their only attempt was to introduce dangdut to me when I was still in primary school, but it was as futile as George Best's attempt to be sober. Therefore, I looked elsewhere for musical inspiration, my older brother. Being 7 years older than me, he introduced me to 90's rock, Britpop, punk, and grunge bands such as Blur, Sugar Ray, Blink-182, and Coldplay. To be listening to my brother's favourite bands, I felt really cool. However, we diverged in our musical tastes along the way as I came across Arctic Monkeys. Having found my own taste in music, I inspired my younger brothers to listen to Arctic Monkeys, and now we all love the same band. Recently, I tried to explore more music from the past, such as The Beatles, Black Sabbath, and Earth, Wind, and Fire.
Looking at my experience, I think children will at first look for music that makes them look cool, so as to increase their stature among their friends. Whether parents could or should shape their kids musical tastes should not be the main concern. Instead, parents should try to spot whether their children have potentials in music and develop them, as in the case of the Haim sisters. Nevertheless, I think forcing children to have certain preferences on some things will only narrow their horizon and stunt their development as unique individuals.
I think parents cannot shape their children’s taste in music. When it talks about music, we talk about people’s taste. Every people have his or her own taste of music, even a brother have a different kind of music taste than his sister. This based on their own personal mind, we can’t make other people to forced them to like a certain kind of music. When they heard a song, which according to them is good, this because of their mind says that this song is a good one. There are also possibilities that we can have a same taste of music with someone, but for sure not all kind of their music is good according to us. However the one that makes us have the different taste of music to our parents or grandparents is trend. Music is also growing; it evolves according to the latest trend. Just like fashion, music will never die it keeps on growing and growing. During 1970’s the music trend is disco where everyone likes to dance. In the 90’s rock music start to growing and now in 2013 the music trend is edm (electronic dance music). This concludes why we have the different taste of music with our parents or grandparents thus still, parents cannot try to shape their children’s taste of music.
ReplyDeleteI agree with that statement ("Every father wants his son to follow his own football team"), but could it happen in this modern era? I think no. Can you imagine if I play elvis' songs and play it out loud in campus? there will be many haters hate me I think. And for me it is not rational if teenagers like us love to listen music like music in 60's or 70's era. Even tough our parents think their sense of music are good, they can't feel the modernization of this era, because they were young in 70's or 80's era. Not all parents are outdated, there are also up-to-date parents. For example, the woman whose age is 45 loves Jennifer Lopez and Pitbull. It is true if parents want their children to follow their sense of music, but they have to see the condition. It is good if Roma Irama want to make his child (Ridho Roma) become the next king of dangdut like him. But, this era is not appropriate to dangdut music. Just some people who live in village usually love that kind of music. I know dangdut is the original type of music from Indonesia, but the market condition is not compatible with that kind of music, some people think that dangdut is very outdated music and not tasty. I think if his child (Ridho Roma) follows the market, he will be famous like others. Maybe he can start make a good dubstep music or acoustic pop music or even make a unique movement like PSY. Haha that's only a joke. for the conclusion, I think forcing children to follow their parents's sense of music is not good. Parents can't force them, maybe it is impossible, because their society usually has the different sense of humor, music, etc if compared to their parents's era.
ReplyDeleteMany parents who have child force them to listening classical music since fetuses. Because they believe fetuses can hear and react music by moving. But no one really knows what those movements mean because experts can't observe an unborn baby as easily as a baby that has already been born. Parents also think that listening classical music from fetuses make their child smarter. But expert said that classical music has no effect on the fetus but on the older children.
ReplyDeleteMany parents try to shape their children’s taste in music, I think that is true but it doesn’t apply in my family. However my father always listening to jazz at home that’s why I like listening jazz too but jazz not my type of music. I love listening pop, acoustic and and several other genres that contained in contemporary music. So parents can’t force what children should listen what music parents love. I think parents do that because they are affraid if their children like rock music for example, their child environment is not good. So let they decide by them self and for parents just watch them carefully.
-anne
I think, what makes people like something is not always parents. But the guider, yes I can say parents. Because in my personal life, my parents never force me to love what they love. I used to play piano when I was in elementary school, because my parent took me to piano courses. But now, what I can really play now is just trumpet. I almost forget how to play piano. But luckily, my parents never mind it. My parents never asked me to play trumpet.
ReplyDeleteAbout my genre music that I love. I can't describe it because I don't have any typical music that I love. I listen to almost every genre of music. I listen to pop, rock, classical, R ’n B, hip hop, and even dubstep sometimes. And I don’t mind to listen to a song that comes from different era such as Queen, The Beatles, 30 Seconds to Mars, Coldplay, Skrillex, and even Bach or Mozart. I love a song because of its meaningfulness. I prefer listen to a song that meaningful to me rather than a song that is up-to-date.
But my parents never taught me about how to love music well. They only showed me what is their favorite musician, which genre of music they like, or what instrument they really want to play. And now, they don’t really care about my music taste. My father only know The Beatles, and my mom always feel dizzy when she listen to a dubstep song. But they don’t matter to the songs that I play. And I'm so grateful about it.
I have different music taste with my father. My father likes 80s band. He likes Koes Plus, Rita Sugiarto, and Broery Marantika. I can’t enjoy his favorite song. I always ask him to change the song, if he plays the song. Sometimes, he buys the cassette and CD to complete his collection. So, his music taste doesn’t influence my taste. In other case, I agree with the statement that parents can shape children taste in music. I will take the example from my neighbor. My neighbor is Mr.Agus. He likes Koes Plus and plays Koes Plus’s song every day. Surprisingly, his son also likes Koes Plus. They make a band, that’s called Three Plus Band. They look very close because they have same taste in the music. Every people have different taste in music. We can’t force someone to like our favorite genre. The difference creates various kind of song. Don’t make the different as a problem. The most important part is the creativity. Let’s enjoy your favorite song.
ReplyDeleteMy parent never shape my taste of music, in fact, I shape theirs. My family always goes out together on the weekend and since Surabaya is a big city with a lot of traffics, it always takes more than 30 minutes to reach the destinations.
ReplyDeleteI love to buy CD albums and play them in the car so my dad, my mom, my brother, and my sister listen to them as well. So the whole family ended up listening to my kind of music.
But once in a while, I also listen to my dad’s old collections and I think they are pretty good. And it feels really nice when you can sing along with your parent to their old songs. I sometimes also learn how to play their songs on the piano so that they can sing to it, and when they do, I literally feel like the happiest girl in the world.
My parent never tell me what to like or what not to like on anything, I always get to choose what I listen to, what I watch, and what I read. Even when I used to play songs from Alesana (a heavy metal band), they never complain.
I think it’s better for parents to let their children choose for themselves, because as long as it’s not a negative thing, it won’t hurt anyone.
Winnie
Yes, parents can shape their children’s taste of music. By ‘shape’ I mean to guide not to impose something. But it is most likely to happen if parents introduce them to certain kind of music for the first time they were aware of music, four or five years old. But there is also chance that it would not work since in the end the children will find their own taste of music.
ReplyDeleteMost parents want their children to love classical music because apparently classical music is good for brain. If that is the case, the parents just need to introduce classical music early to their children, but on certain limit. Do not make the children to obsess over it because as stated in the article they might alienate themselves from their friends at school.
As for me, if I had children, I would most likely to guide them to be kin of classical music.
Yes, I do believe that parents can shape their children’s taste of music. Not only parents, but also friends can affect someone’s taste of music. When I was a kid, my father often played Indonesian pop songs, and my mother often played Western pop songs. I end up love both Indonesian and Western pop songs (both from the 90s). At that point, I think they successfully shape my taste of music. But then, I heard a lot of new styles of music. Slowly, my taste of music changed. When I was in Junior High School, I met a lot of friends who love K-pop (Korean pop). My taste of music was completely changed into K-pop (around 2008) because of my friends. Today, I think my taste of music is K-pop, which is completely different with my parents. What I’m trying to say is that parents can guide or shape their children’s taste of music, but they can’t force it. Someone’s taste of music is depends on that person himself.
ReplyDeleteEvery single person has his or her own personal taste in music. Our favorite genre doesn’t run in our blood and is not genetic, thus being in the same family doesn’t mean having the same taste in music. It’s not wrong if parents continuously expose their favorite songs to their children, as it’s their nature to want to have things in common with their own child. It all depends on how the child reacts to it.
ReplyDeletePersonally, I enjoy the old school songs my parents sing and listen to at home. I guess being exposed to the songs at a young age made me learn to accept and enjoy them. But even though I enjoy the music my parents play, the songs I listen to daily are still different from theirs. So I guess my parents didn’t really shape my taste in music but they made me tolerate their taste in music.
Though there are children who have the instinct to dislike what their parents like. Those children who are embarrassed to be caught in public with their parents, they would be into music completely opposite to their parents on purpose to make their parents annoyed.
Some parents might think that shaping their children’s taste is important, the other think that it is simply their choice to make. Even so, I think it is not a bad thing to influence your children in shaping their characteristics which include their music taste. Other reasons could be that some parents might want their children to follow their path as musician. Having said that, inheriting your musical taste to your children could be complicated because their social life would majorly be spent with their mates, considering they have to go to school 5 or 6 days a week.
ReplyDeleteFurthermore, everyone should have their own preferences on music, some may hate pop songs because they think it is gay whilst some other choose not to listen to rock or rap songs because they often have vulgar lyrics. To reach a conclusion, the one thing which every parent should know is that music taste is mainly determined by external factor, hence why, if a parent wants to influence their children, make sure to spend more time listening to music together, or give them extra music lessons which only teach specific genre.
Oza
I know now, after reading this article that it seems to be quite important for many parents that their children listen to the same kind of music as they do and like. Actually, I have to admit, I have never really thought about this topic before, either because it never occurred to me to be from great importance for my parents or I just haven´t realized. But anyway I can´t imagine that it is that important for parents that their children like the same kind of music. Okay you spend lots of time together and it may be facilitating if everyone likes to listen to the same music, but besides I think most likely it is a question of the generation to what music you are listening. The type of music is changing every year, so if children are used to this new kind of music the music of their parents may appear kind of alien or “strange -sounding” for them. Anyway, I think it is more interesting if there is an exchange of the music of the different generations rather than everyone is listening to the same music.
ReplyDelete"You might find that all of a sudden the child thirsts for the string quartets of Haydn and takes to listening to them in private."
ReplyDeleteNice try, but I don’t think this is always working out. If the music style just doesn’t fit to the child’s character then it doesn’t fit. There is nothing to argue about and I don’t really understand why there is so much hustle and bustle about differences in music taste.
However, the last point about music encouraging good behavior and its major contribution to educational development seems plausible to me and might be a good reason to lead children’s music taste. But also the issue mentioned by Rozano has to be taken into account that special music can contain vulgar expressions that might not be adequate for a child of 6 years for instance.
But what happens if parents succeed in leading their children’s music taste? Will they also try determine the clothes they wear, the food they eat, the friends they have etc. This is a never-ending story and only leads to children who have no own identity.
My parents never forced their taste of music into mine. However, they do recommend some music of their age back then, especially my father that loves Queen, Michael Learns To Rock, and Michael Jackson a lot. Ever since I was little, I am already familiar with my father’s choice of music, and to be honest, I enjoyed them a lot. Up until now, I am still listening to those artists especially Queen.
ReplyDeleteWhat I found kind of funny is that as I grow up my father started to listen to my music as well. Sort of. In fact, he likes some of that commercial pop music on the radio, which I despise a lot because the radio overplayed it. My mom on the contrary, prefers to listen to my choice of music, which is lounge, and nu-disco that I often played in the car. She even asked me to put my songs into her iPod. To put it simply, it’s not only parents that can affect their child’s music taste. Children can also affect their parents’ taste of music as parents nowadays are more open-minded to new genres of music.
In my opinion, what parents role are in this particular thing is introducing and guiding their children. As a child you won't know what is best and what is worst, and there is where parents are needed. Help their child to consider about what decision they should make and how to do it in a proper way. Back when I was in elementary I do not have any favorite bands or songs. I just listen to my older sisters playlist, which is mostly Avril Lavigne, Hilary Duff, Britney Spears and so on. I do not have any music background by the way, my father is an Architecture while my mother is an Businesswoman. As a result, I enjoy listening to songs that can be categorized as girl songs like Britney Spears - Hit Me Baby One More Time or Avril Lavigne's songs. So based on my experience, it is not my parents who shape my taste in music but my sisters.
ReplyDeleteI do believe that parents can influence the taste of music of their children. Either it is to make them like the same type of music or to like the completely different one. I guess it depends on the approach of the parents. If the parents really want their children to like the same music as them, I think the best way is to play the music at home. Don't tell them things like “You have to listen to this” or “I like this so you have to like it too”. Just play it as a background music. Let the music flow from the speakers as a background music. Let them do what they're doing and create a very comfortable or happy atmosphere at home. It's better to do it when they're still small. Then most probably the children will like the same music. Because our mind will automatically like music that makes us feel comfortable or music that brings good memories.
ReplyDeleteBut of course there's a time limit for it. You can do like the way I mentioned above only until before the children become teenagers. When they're teenagers, they will find their own type of music. And most probably will be influenced by their friends. When parents try to make teenagers like the same music as them, they will most probably fail. Because teenagers tend to do the opposite things than what they're told to.
And I agree with what Mr. Adrian said: “You cannot force people to love things”.
I think it’s normal for any parents to feel that they and their children must have a similarity about their favorite music. And sometimes parents even insist their children to love the music that they loved. But I don’t agree with parents who forced their children to do what they want. They just can influence and try to make their children to love their music at the end. I find this case to my father too. He often played endless love songs in my home. At first, I don’t really like it or pay attention to it because I think it’s very lame. Moreover, if my friends find out that I enjoyed the old songs, they will make fun of me. Then, because my father often play the song or even sang it, with his “beautiful” voice of course, I started to enjoy those songs. Sometimes I would sing along with my father. This happen also with my younger brother, even though he is still 12 years old, he often sings old songs with my father But unlike me and my brother, my younger sister always put an earphone and listens to her mp3 when my father did this. So, I don’t think that parents can shape their children’s taste of music because all people have their own taste, including children.
ReplyDeleteIt is possible for a parent to shape their children’s taste in music. From what I know or experienced it is actually a good thing. I know this girl from middle school; her parents forced her into taking music lessons and also into liking classical music since she was born. The result is that, she mastered 4 major instruments does well in school and has an amazing career.
ReplyDeleteAt some other point I don’t really think it’s that necessary because you want your kids to have or make their own choices.
My dad actually shaped my taste in music, not by forcing though. What’s good about it is that he didn’t try to make me like a specific type of genre but instead, made me able to enjoy ALL genres. When I was a kid, he introduced me to the songs from the 70’s (artists like the Bee Gees, Queen, ABBA etc) and up until the 90’s.
I think parents cannot really shape their children’s taste in music. In my opinion, the taste in music is depends on the personality of the person. It is relative. What genre is he or she like? In my case, each of my family members has a different taste of music. My dad love classic, my mom love rock, and me myself love RnB. This differences sometimes make us fight about what music will be play in the car if we going out together. Usually my mom is the one who won because I am on my mom side (my voice in choosing RnB is invalid since I am just a child). It is better for me to hear The Killer rather than ‘The Best Classic Songs of 2013’. It is not that I hate classic music but somehow hearing Brandon Flowers is much more interesting (but RnB is still the best!). But sometimes I also take sides to my father. Even though sometimes it is annoying reason to fight for, I feel this difference somehow make us closer to each other.
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion our parent’s taste in music influences us, especially when we were younger. I listened to old songs, such as bee gees, metallica, iron maden because I loved it when my father listened to it. He also plays the drums, bass, keyboard and guitar. So he taught me how to play the drums and keyboard. This is one of the activities that bond us together. It makes us closer, and he shows off to other family members that we can play the same instrument. Like father like son. But as we grow older, we become more open to new songs that are released in our era. And sometimes I introduce today’s music to my parents, they like a few songs but not all. Music is a universal language, so they say. It connects people when other things are not possible. To like or love the same music makes my father and I closer than ever.
ReplyDeleteMy parents never suggest what kind of music I should hear or I should love, but I think they have a big role in shaping my music taste. In my family my dad used to listening rock-pop music, and he prefers playing The Beatles’ songs to any other band. My mom, she fond of listening Indonesia old school music such as Koes Plus, Ahmad Albar, etc. And I have random taste of music, it depends on the song. If the song has good lyrics, good rhyme, probably I’m going to like it. Every Sunday morning my dad usually plays the Beatles song, that’s why sometimes I often sing one of it. My dad’s taste makes me to find out more about other rock band such as oasis, arctic monkeys, etc. I know every details of them, but sometimes I like to hear about RnB music. Therefore, I think parents have influence in shaping their children’s taste of music.
ReplyDeleteShaping children’s taste to music? I wonder if that could really work because I had never think about it before. Since I was a little kid, my parents had never suggested or forced me to listen to the kind of music they like. My father is not a music person. He doesn’t really have a specific interest into certain musics. My mother, she listens to any genres except rock. In these past years, my taste of musics has changed a lot. Five years ago, I enjoy heavy and indie music so much. When I enter the high school, it turned to synth-pop and now I am a fond of a pop-classic. Since I joined choir, I am now addicted to the songs produced by Disney, Glee and any other musical play or theatrical soundtracks. However, I also believe that from psychological side, music can unite people. It able to share connection between person to person. So, it might mork for parents that want to building chemistry with their child.
ReplyDeleteMusic have become a good mate since prehistoric eras. As parent to shape the taste of music of their child there's some possibilities. Back in high school, in sociology we learn a theory to socialize the values in society which is in the second step called "Play Stage". This stage is when children imitate the adults by watch the adults daily routine. When the parents sing or play their favourite song everyday there will be a great influences that affect the children for example when I was young, my father kept his collection of slow classic rock music in his PC. Every time I played it, he always play his favourite playlist on music player and my father indirectly introduce me to slow rock music. I began to enjoy slow rock genre when there's a music that I used to hear at home is played on the radio. But there's some external issues that shift someone music taste: Environment and Billboard music. Hearing the same music genre 24/7 makes us boring eventually and by knowing what's hot around society we could expand or even change our music demand. Billboard became reference to good music when we bored with the music that we hear every day
ReplyDeleteShaping children’s taste in music can be successful and also fail. When I was younger, my father made me listen to classic rock genre, such as Bon Jovi, Deep Purple, and Michael Learns to Rock. Well I like all of them. My father was successful in encouraging me to like those bands. But as I grew older and older, I started to have my own taste of music. My father could no longer have the interventions of my taste in music. Maybe if someone wants to shape their children’s taste of music, they better do it when their children are still in elementary schools. When the children grow older and older, they start to build their own music tastes, and do not want to be intervented by the parents or even friends. They will have their own world with music. Maybe what parents can do is to facilitate them with musical lessons. People with musical skills tend to have better music tastes.
ReplyDeleteI think any great musician grew with the music that they used to listen and make it an art. So I think it is highly possible that children taste of music can be shaped. But then again, as the time goes by, any kids would also listen to other kind of music that may be no parents ever heard of. The shaping of children taste of music is not always a success. But I think it would set a standard for the children. For example, if the children listen to a lot of Mozart, in the future they would subconsciously listen to a music that reminds them of their childhood. And the children would know what kind of music is good enough. My parents doesn't make me listen to Coltrane when I was kid, instead they would make me listen to Indonesian traditional song that have soul, therefore I would set a standard for my taste of music. I would listen to Coltrane because his music has soul, just like the kind of music that I used to listen.
ReplyDeleteI think it’s very common and normal if parents want their children like what they like, for example their taste in music. They want their children have a similarity taste in music. And I do believe that parents can influence the taste of music of their children. When parents like to play, listen, or introduce their favorite music to their child since they were baby or child, it can influence them to become have same taste in music with their children. Because when we were baby or child, we don’t know anything and babies or children usually like to copy or do what they saw from their parents. And they will be get used to with or like everything that they heard since they were baby or children. But I think for some people, parents are not really can influence their taste in music. Because when children get older their taste in will be changed or different with their parents (but maybe it won’t change). And I think taste in music is depends on our personal or ourselves. And I agree with what Mr. Adrian said: “You cannot force people to love things”.
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion parents may and may not shape their children taste in music because in real world there are so many variables that may alter the results such as their peers, schools, or even their religion or any other agents of socialization.
ReplyDeleteParents can shape their children taste in music because in what I’ve learned in sociology we actually can control how a person should act or believe in something. The biggest chance in shaping one’s way of thinking is in their primary socialization so in this stage our children is trying to learn about the norms, values and other basics things. And also there is a theory called “looking glass self” in which he states that children are learning by observing others or in this particular their parents act and thus if we want to shape our children taste in music we must regularly play that songs and let our children to hear it. And according to Marxist perspective in order to inject something to a person we must constantly bombard them with our ideas or in this case our music genre and thus slowly our children will internalise it into themselves, so in order to internalise ideas or music or anything we must make the subject to be surrounded by those things. The most effective case study for this is the case of children that being raised by animals there are certain cases in the world where there are children who are being raised by wolves or bears. And that particular children automatically become like that animals they walk with their arms, only ate raw meat and even howling or making sounds like that animal that raise them.
Parents may also cannot shape their children taste in music like in cases that already mentioned in the article even though those children already being exposed to the music. Sociologically it is possible as there are a theory that called overburden by functionalist sociologist that says a children become crazy or there are a battle between their own ego and their parent’s ego and thus that children may lose themselves and thus they will not internalizing any form of ideas being injected into him. And also pressure from their peers for example may making them harder in internalizing the ideas as they might be alienated by their peers if they don’t share the same taste in music with them.
In conclusion the efficiency of parents in enforcing their taste in music is depends on their degree in exposing it to their children and also the children themselves and the society also plays a big part in determining one’s taste in music
My dad is hero! That was what I shouted out loud before puberty. My dad was my example, so when he was singing queen bohemian rhapsody, I joined him. He gave me a good introduction to his favourite music. But there is no chance my parents could prevent me from creating my own taste for music, especially not during puberty. I still liked the older music my dad listened to, but I also listened to house, pop, hardstyle and that kind of music.
ReplyDeleteI think your taste of music can and will be shaped by your surroundings. Now I will talk really black and white to make my statement more clear; when you live in the ghetto, you probably prefer to listen to rap and gangster music. When you live in a nice neighbourhood with higher class people, your preferences are more likely to be different. But that’s just my point of view.
I agree with the article that says about parents can’t force their children to love their music. I believe that every single person has his/her own music genre. I also believe that environment takes a role to determine what kind of music genre that he/she love. I write it down because it based on my experience. When I was I junior high school, most of my friends were like to listen to metal band, such as: avenged sevenfold, bullet for my valentine, trivium, etc. When there was a break time, my friends were like to play the song in the class, when I listened to those kind of music I feel that it was cool. Some metal bands, usually make their songs with long and great guitar solo, and it is great when you pay attention to how the drummers use double pedal in their songs, and some screams that I love to hear.
ReplyDeleteWhen I was child back in kindergarten until junior high school I always listened to my father‘s and mother’s songs like Diana ross, phil Collins, toto, bee gees, and also Kenny g and it’s influence me so much until now. Nowadays even though there are lot of teenagers band like the script or even noah band but I still love my parents music and still feel more comfortable when I’m listening to their music rather than a new musician because it’s like linger in my heart so when I have a problems and it’s disturbing me so much until I can’t sleep my parent’s favorite songs are like my medicine to make me forget the problems for a while so I agree if my parent’s favorite music influence me so much. Although if my relatives say that my music style is different from most of teenagers but when I feel comfort with what I do than I just do it all over again.
ReplyDeleteI agree that parents can shape a child's taste of music. It may happen because the parents have lived together since their children were born. In fact, the children learn about everything in the world since they were babies. Therefore, what they have heard through the music favored by their parents can be one of the major factors in determining the children’s taste of music.
ReplyDeleteHowever, after being a teenager, the existing environment around the children is not just their parent. They start to watch music concert on television and appreciate it. They began to have friends at school with a varied taste of music.
Taste of music is an abstract thing. We could not find the exact formula to determine who made the taste of music of someone. Everything is formed, flow, and gradually establish a person's music tastes. Tastes were formed naturally subjective and through the environment.
My parents like music very much. They think that music can decrease our stress. My dad like singing in the bathroom while taking a bath. I always laugh if hear him singing in the bathroom because he has loud voice. Sometimes they invite me to go to Happy Puppy and it’s free for me to choose whatever music that I like. Actually parents can shape their children to love music, but as the times going up, I think the music’s taste of the parents and their children is different. Maybe the parents like classical music that trended in their era, but in this era it doesn’t trend anymore. The environment can more affected the children’s music style. For example the music trend in this era is Korean Pop or usually called K-Pop. Many teenagers love Korean music and also the singer. I don’t think that their parents loved K-Pop too. That’s why, in my opinion, environment will shape the children’s music style than the parents.
ReplyDeleteCould parents shape their children’s taste of music? I think parents have a big role to shape their children’s taste of music, because, if parents played some type of music their children will also heard that, and they used to heard that and will like that music also, in example: when I was a toddler my mom and dad used to hear Mariah Carey and Kenny G songs, this condition also force me to heard that kind of music, and when I grew up, I started to like that songs because I heard so many times when my father and mother play it. So I think taste of music could be shape with giving your children the kind of music you want them to like since they was a baby, and play it repeatedly supposed to they used to heard it and finally will like that kind of music, but I don’t really sure, because I have a friend that has a very different taste of music with his parent.
ReplyDeleteEverybody loves music. But the genre of music that they love is sometimes different. In this article, it is written that sometimes the parents want their children to love their sense of music. But in my opinion, they must not force their children to do so. Why? Because for me, music is something that we have to enjoy and love, not something that have to be forced from others.
ReplyDeletePersonally, I love all kinds of music, except rock&roll and heavy metal. Almost every night, I will play piano and sing a song, while my father is playing the guitar. My mother and my elder sister usually sing as the backing vocal (the alto). We love to sing a song from John Denver, Queen, the Beatles, Josh Groban, and many more. Although me and my parents live seperately, we always sing together every night via telephone. It is so fun, because I feel like we can get closer with music. Although my parents and I come from the different era of music, but I can accept their music genre and I love it.
What about the parents that force their children to love their genre of music? For me it is not good. Maybe the parents think that they will get closer with their chidren by music, but if they force their children to love their genre of music, it will not have a good advantages. So in conclusion, use music to get closer with the children but do not force them to love the parent’s genre of music. Let them to choose the genre of music that they love, and try to understand it.
I love music and what I found in my family our taste of music is not very different. When my siblings and me still in elementary, every weekend my father will play the cd of Andy Williams, Natalie Cole or Bee Gees. Maybe because of that reasons I know that era music. However, until today I still cannot find the enjoyment to hear keroncong. It does not mean I do not like Indonesian’s traditional music. Honestly I want to learn about how to play gamelan or can sinden but I still cannot find the enjoyment if I hear keroncong in the car. I still questioning what are the reasons and effect that parents want to shape their kids interest of music. Maybe it can make them to communicate and share same interest, but I think to communicate do not need same interest. Just talk about music and share their opinions about the genre that each of them like.
ReplyDeleteCould parents force their children taste of music to be the same as them? No, but parents could influenced their children taste of music. I think that when we’re children, we want to be the same as our parents and that’s exactly what happened with me and my parents, especially my dad. My parents have three daughters and many people said that even though I look more like my mom, but I’m closer with my dad. When I was a child whenever we’re in the car together we will start singing and listen to Iwan Fals, The Beatles, The Police, Chicago, etc. and that’s the bond that I have with my dad. Right now whenever he listens to some songs that we used to sing together on the radio, he would ask me to find it for him. I think that right now my musical preferences is a little bit comes from my dad, even though he doesn’t listen to new songs anymore, but the genre stays the same.
ReplyDeleteWell , talking about the children taste in music , I think that There has been an abundance of articles circulating the web on how to talk to your daughters about Miley Cyrus or how to talk to your sons about Robin Thicke after their shocking performance of Thicke’s “Blurred Lines” at MTV’s VMAs, but the greater conversation still appears unspoken: have you talked to your children about their shitty, shitty taste in music yet? Or more importantly, have you talked to yourself about how you could let you children have such shitty taste in music?
ReplyDeleteWhile everyone is ranting and raving about Miley Cyrus and Robin Thicke’s best impression of LeeLoo and Beetlejuice doing softcore porn, we should really be asking ourselves as a society on how we’ve let such incredibly bad music seep into our homes. As we know that some taste of music is different but how we can enjoy and feel the taste , so it will makes us to know and can feel the taste of music.
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My parents love music so much, and since I was a kid, they always play music for me through CD’s or directly play music instrument. Until now, we have the same taste of music. My father is a big fan of Ebiet G Ade, Michael Learns To Rock, Kenny G and also Michael Jackson. He always sings that kind of music until me and my sisters indirectly love that song too. Although my father never forced me to hear his favorite song, I love it. So I think it’s true that parents’ taste of music can influence their children, but not shape their taste of music.
ReplyDeleteIn my family, not only parents that can influence my taste of music, but also I can influence them. Because mostly when we’re traveling, we always play some music in our car. And when I played mine, they also like my taste of music, which is brand new pop music. So we never arguing or take it serious about whose music is now on the tape.
Seriously, the baby’s picture is overload with cuteness! But, I don’t want to make a comment about the baby’s picture, so, move on to this article’s topic. "And I imagine that every parent has some kind of innate desire to want their child to enjoy the same kind of music that they did." I don’t know that parents are trying that hard to make us, the children, to love their music. “Parents have an interest in finding some musical common ground with their children, if only for five-hour car journeys.” I agree with this statement. It’s a tradition in my family that every “Lebaran” we have to listen to my dad’s CDs in the car for the whole journey to my hometown, which are Ebit G Ade, Deep purple, and the Beatles. "Some children follow what their parents say and what their parents like. They enjoy living in the image of their parents, and other children do precisely the opposite," says Summerly.” I personally okay with Deep purple and The Beatles, even though I don’t really like it, but Ebit G Ade makes me just want to sleep for the whole journey. His voice and guitar are nice, but it’s just not the type of music that I like. My mom’s favorite singer is Broery and my brother’s are Oasis, Kings of Convenience, and Sondre Lerche. Actually, right now I’m listening to Misread by Kings of Convenience while writing this comment. It’s a good song; you should definitely check it out! I don’t like my father’s favorite type of music, neither my mother’s. But I love my brother’s favorite. I think, one day when I already became a parent, I wouldn’t make my child to love my favorite singers or bands. Thank you for reading.
ReplyDeleteMy mother loves music so much. She always listen to it almost every time, and same things happen to me and all my siblings. We all love music. She loves slow rocks, 90’s, RnB, and so on. Except, hardcore and things. This environment, makes us (the children) has the same taste of music. So, accidentally, our taste of music shaped by my mom. This is actually a good thing, so we can sing the same song and become so close from the same music taste. Sometimes my mother ask me to download the song she love from the internet, and we sang together.
ReplyDeleteAs Tata mentioned “He said that he must let me be free to choose what I like to hear or not, as long as it is educating, good, and not rude.”
My mother said the same thing. Oh, and also ,I love to listen some hardcore music too. Such as Bring Me the Horizon, Sleeping with Sirens, Pierce the Veil, and many more.
Time is all the matters. Imagine, if our children was born in 1960 ? comparing to another children in 2013 ?. That would be a huge differences. Family is a place where we live together as a unit. Which means we could offer , lead or teach our children to have any kind of music taste. I think we should teach them to learn any kind of music. Time after time, let our children choose what they want but still in our sight to keep them in a good way of listening to music. If we have a favourite musician or band and we have a children. We couldn’t insist them to listen or mad at them. Once again, let them choose in their way
ReplyDeleteThe difficult thing is when our children influented by someone and it turns bad!. Example: a kid who likes metal music things. They intend to behave or copy their style. It’s bad and we have to correct them even if it takes time. Let them choose but keep on eye on them to prevent if there’s something wrong
I have to admit that I have interest in jazz because my parents love them so much. There are more than 50% of jazz songs in my playlist than hip-hop, R&B and those kinds of music. I think parents have strong influence in their kid’s taste of music. I have a friend who has won several competitions in international festivals of music. And I just found out that her parents are big fans of classical music. Even though her parents do not play music instruments, they affect their kids by playing the classical songs at home so their kids grow up to be a classical music lover and even playing the very same genre that they like very well. And the plus point is that while she has her concert, her parents are watching her so they do not need to buy CD of classical music. They can just ask her to play!
ReplyDeleteSome people who love music, tend to listening it almost every time. And if that kind of behavior is happening when you have a child, It is a common thing that your child would like the same music as yours. It is because the child listening the music over and over again, that it got stuck in their brain. So when the children grow up, they will like that kind of music. So I think, it is possible to adjust your children taste of music.
ReplyDeleteAs for myself, my parents didn’t really like music. So, I didn’t really bother about music. But if you ask me what kind of music did I like, it would be those music that easy to listen. And having a good vibe when we listen to it. Well, even though my playlist is full of Anime soundtrack, it is what I consider “easy to listen” and “having a good vibe” that can go into my playlist.
I agree with daniyyah, "Could parents force their children taste of music to be the same as them? No, but parents could influenced their children taste of music". My taste of music is influenced by my parents. Starting from what my mom hear from the radio, and also from all the parents CDs that played in the car during a long trip. David Foster, Madonna, Celine Dion, Shania Twain, Earth Wind and Fire,etc are the firsts artists that is frequently played in my family. So, I'm influenced to start liking that kind of song. But, what's funny about my parents is that sometimes they are the one that are influenced by me and my brother's taste of music.
ReplyDeleteI don’t think that you can shape your children's taste in music, because you have to know that everyone has different taste. You can only introduce your children to your favorite music, but you can’t force them to like it. My dad and my mom love the same taste in music. They like to play and sing their favorite songs in the car, in the living room, etc. I don’t mind. I appreciate their taste of music, but I can’t force myself to like it. I like the other taste that is not the same with them. By the way, my favorite singer is Taylor Swift, and I totally love all of her songs. As we can see in the article, in the forth picture of a girl and her mom, it really explains why you shouldn’t force your children to like your taste in music. As it is already said in the article that it will only make the children hate the music their parents love, and love the music their parents hate.
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion, you can shape your children’s taste in music. All you have to do is guide them and make them listen to what you’re listening from they were young. Until they grow up and understand that your taste in music is good enough for them.
ReplyDeleteLike my mom did, when I was in pre-K, my mom gave me classical music every day and every night, after I wake up and before I go to bed. She teaches me how to play the piano, and I started to like it. I join the piano course, I copy my mom’ classical music to my phone, and listen to it everyday.
Until know, I still love listening to classical music and play the piano.
Another example is Ahmad Dhani’ kids. Ahmad Dhani is a popular singer in Indonesia, and his special genre is rock. We can see now that all of his kids are playing rock.
So, I can conclude that you can shape your children’s taste in music as long as you guide them to like it.
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“Whatever parents do or don't do to shape their children's taste, they seem to find what they like. Perhaps all that parents need to do is to open the doors for children, introduce them, in Lloyd Webber's phrase, "to some of the greatest achievements of mankind" and let them explore at them their leisure.”
ReplyDeleteI’m fully agree with the statement above. But I have been observed how both of my brother’s music preferences are slightly more influenced by my father. Because for along time he is very fanatic with rock and country genres. So, before they born into this world, they are already familiar with rock music. Then, until today I have never seen them love another music genre except rock, whether they are alternative rock, punk rock, hard rock or slow rock. But, it doesn’t happens to me. Although since I was kid have been surrounding by people who love rock, sometimes I have my own preferences of music taste. I can’t say I love rock, jazz, classic, pop, blues, or country. Because for me whatever kind of genres can be listened at any time wherever you want to listen them. It depends on the situation which encourage us to listen what kind of music that we think it is appropriate or not within our emotions, feelings and mood. Meanwhile, there are also some people who loves one genre because of trend or the figure behind it, for example we can suddenly be a fans of one band or boy band because of the vocalist or the members are good looking, charming, and so on. So, many factors can affect our music taste.
The “Can you shape your children's taste in music?” article mentioned that, “some children follow what their parents say and what their parents like. They enjoy living in the image of their parents, and other children do precisely the opposite.” I think it is true, and I do agree with it. I believe that some children will follow their parents for whatever they like and do in a good way, because children may see their parents as their role models, so yeah I think it’s the reason why children have the same taste of music. But some children also do the opposite from their parents. They may have different music taste and do different things from their parents. I think it happens a lot, because they may be influenced from their living environment; for example is friends they keep at school.
ReplyDeleteParents and their children may have different taste of music, but parents cannot force their children to have the same taste as theirs. They may try to acquaint their children to their music, but it does not mean that the children have to like that music.
In most cases your parents are someone you look up to and you want to be like them when you are growing up. That's one of the reasons why I think it's possible to shape your children's taste in music. My parents are not really musically, that's probably why I never really cared about learning to play any instrument either. In the beginning of primary school I joined the choir for a short time, I figured out pretty soon that singing wasn't one of my qualities. My parents didn't listen to any special kind of music and neither do I. If there was some kind of music that my parents prefered I think I would have been affected of it. When the children grows up with the music it will also be a big part of their life, in most cases I therefor think they will appreciate the same music as their parents. It might be a part in their life where they hate it, but thats with everything and they get past it.
ReplyDeleteI believe it is possible to shape your children’s taste in music. After all someone’s music preference can change overtime, because the way people think about things always change. When listening to music we tend to find song that reflects our mood at that time. Since our mood always changes, we will listen to another music genre.
ReplyDeleteWhen I was in my elementary school, over the weekends my parents would always play Indonesian and English songs that are popular in the 80s and 90s. So in my primary I loved those old songs, which most of them are telling someone’s love story and their journey. Then my friends introduced me to Indonesian pop songs, so started to listen to Indonesian pop songs, which mainly about love and little bit cheesy. Then I entered secondary school. Most of my friends like to list to English music, then I started to listen English music up until now. What I like about English music is that, it is not always about love, it can be about anything.
I think taste of music developed naturally, a children who are used to listen classic music can turn out to be a hip hop lover in the future, it depends on their living environment such as friend, family and where he/she lives. As for me, I spend my childhood with my family especially with my two older brother who always listen to green day, west life , blink 182 and Sheila on7, when I’m still 5 years old and until now I’m still hooked to that band , their song are still in my iTunes playlist , but that doesn’t mean I listen to that kind of genre all over the time. As I grow up my music taste become more broad , I listen to trance , instrumental classic & electro ,and indie , but I still love and remember how Mark Hoppus sung “wishing well” and how I got addicted with wetslife when I’m still in elementary school. My point is, taste of music can be developed since we were young by people around us but that doesn’t mean it is permanent, everybody taste of music change as the time goes on
ReplyDeleteI think we can not shape or even determine our children's taste of music. It all depends on his or her taste of music. My dad loves to listen Jazz , classic, country and some blues songs.But my mom does not like to hear any music at all. And when I was younger, my dad used to tell me that I have to listen to some of his favourite songs and bands. But, I don't even like any single thing of his collection. I prefer listening to some electronic, new wave, post rock, or some EDM thingies to those old thingies. My dad forbids me to listen to some club songs. Even she forbids me to listen to any music because of religion issues. But I still don't care about my father forbidding me listening to those electronic dance music thingies. I just listen the music that i like and I enjoy that.
ReplyDeleteWow what a great topics. I really like about this topics because i really like music very much. My favorite type of music is rock, blues, and jazz. Hhmmi don’t really know about this but in my opinion you can nottaste the type of music that you like. It is all depends on your taste of the music. Let see the example from my family. Let see my dad love to hear dangdut music, my mom love to hear pop music, but me and my brother did not have the same taste as them. I like to listen to rock music, blues music and jazz music. My brother like to listen to rock music, and classical music. From that examle we know that we can not determine your children taste of music. It is all from your preference, it is all depends on your taste of music. Okay that is all of my opinion. Thanks.
ReplyDeleteI believe that you can shape your children’s taste in music, but it is not possible to completely influence your children’s taste in it, perhaps some of your preferences will rub off on your child if they grew up accustomed to it. But then again, every single person in the world is different and there are different kinds of kid in this world, there are some that wants to follow their parents path, those who respect and try to embrace their parents’ preferences, and those who rebel. Those who rebel usually does not want their preferences to be the same as their parents, they would consider their parents’ taste as lame, or maybe it’s just not their taste.
ReplyDelete"And I imagine that every parent has some kind of innate desire to want their child to enjoy the same kind of music that they did."
Because there are some sort of proudness oozing out of the parents if they see their child to like the same thing they do, they would think ‘that’s my kid alright, just like me’ and something like that.
I grew up listening to my dad’s songs, and my dad loves those classic rock bands and jazz musics, I grew accustomed to them and ended up liking some of them like Queen, Deep Purple, Godbless, etc. Sure, I still listen to different things than what my dad likes, but eventually my dad ended up liking the same thing I like also, so it’s all good.